Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/29/1998 01:50 PM House FIN

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SENATE BILL NO. 285                                                            
                                                                               
"An Act relating to state procurement practices."                              
                                                                               
KRISTIE TIBBLES, STAFF, SENATOR DRUE PEARCE, explained that                    
when highway improvements are needed, a project is designed,                   
a request for bids is advertised, and a construction                           
contract is then competitively awarded by the Department of                    
Transportation and Public Facilities (DOT&PF).  When the                       
highway that needs the work involves the Alaska Railroad,                      
the work involving the Railroad property is not included in                    
that bid.  When such a situation occurs, the Department                        
negotiates a force-account contract with the Alaska                            
Railroad.  That arrangement reduces the amount of work which                   
the private industry can participate in and keeps the                          
Department public fund expenditure from going through a                        
competitive bid arrangement.                                                   
                                                                               
Ms. Tibbles reported that SB 285 would reintroduce                             
competition for construction of DOT&PF highway projects                        
which involve the Alaska Railroad.  SB 285 will establish a                    
fair and effective manner by which to award construction                       
contracts for those projects and will require the Alaska                       
Railroad Corporation to utilize a competitive bidding                          
process, openly advertised when managing projects.                             
                                                                               
JOHN ENG, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ASSOCIATED GENERAL                   
CONTRACTORS, ANCHORAGE, testified in support of the bill                       
before the Committee.  He stated that taxpayer dollars                         
should be used for improvements to other properties included                   
in the bidding process.  He urged passage of the                               
legislation.                                                                   
                                                                               
Representative G. Davis inquired if the bill had been                          
created to address a specific problem.  Mr. Eng replied that                   
in recent years, the Department of Transportation has                          
negotiated account contracts with the Alaska Railroad,                         
project paid for with tax dollars.  Consequently, general                      
contractors have not had the opportunity to bid on that                        
work.  The Alaska Railroad could participate by working for                    
contractors that bid on those projects.  The Railroad would                    
not be able to bid or sign a contract on a force-account                       
contract.                                                                      
                                                                               
Representative G. Davis questioned the legal authority of                      
those people working within the Alaska Railroad right-of-                      
way.  Mr. Eng replied that the right-of-way is property                        
which belongs to the Alaska Railroad, and that DOT&PF works                    
together with them to address highway improvements which                       
occur within that area.                                                        
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies asked if there would be a problem                     
separating the roadwork from the signaling and control work.                   
Mr. Eng replied that would not create a problem.                               
                                                                               
TOM BROOKS, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), CHIEF ENGINEER,                    
ALASKA RAILROAD CORPORATION, ANCHORAGE, commented that in                      
the existing system, DOT&PF treats the Alaska Railroad as a                    
utility.  If one of their projects impacts the Alaska                          
Railroad, they come to the Railroad to provide funding                         
needed to accommodate the changes required.                                    
                                                                               
He continued, that work is generally done with a railroad                      
work force, however, from time to time, there has been a                       
request from the Department to pursue a construction                           
contract.  When that work is done, the Railroad employees                      
100% Alaskans.  He continued, if the work were bid, there                      
are a limited number of qualified contractors in the State.                    
Mr. Brooks emphasized that if the work were competitively                      
bid, there is no guarantee that it would stay in Alaska.                       
                                                                               
Mr. Brooks stressed that there is valid concern when                           
addressing the safety of the trains.  He added, if the bill                    
is separated, it is important that signaling and flag                          
protection continues to be part of the Alaska Railroad                         
effort.  He reiterated that the signaling work is a                            
specialty contract situation and that railroad flag                            
protection is a matter of safety.                                              
                                                                               
BILL HUPPRICH, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ASSOCIATE                       
GENERAL COUNSEL, ALASKA RAILROAD CORPORATION, ANCHORAGE,                       
remarked that if the proposed legislation is enacted, it                       
could cause problems in Union agreements by restricting the                    
Railroads authority to contract or subcontract out the work.                   
He warned that the legislation could place the Alaska                          
Railroad in the middle of a Department project.  If the work                   
were not done with railroad people, it would be best to have                   
the Department contract directly with the bidder, which                        
would solve the Union contract problem.                                        
                                                                               
Mr. Hupprich advised that the Alaska Railroad is opposed to                    
passage of the bill.  He spoke to Amendment #1.  [Copy on                      
File].  He recommended that if the legislation is to pass                      
that "construction work" must exclude signal work and rail                     
flagging.                                                                      
                                                                               
Mr. Hupprich pointed out that Amendment #1 proposes to amend                   
Section 1.36.30.015(a), on the fifth line, placing a period                    
after "Public Facilities" and deleting the remainder of the                    
underlined portion of the amendment.  Co-Chair Therriault                      
clarified that if the money were coming from the Department,                   
they would then be the ones handling the entire project.                       
                                                                               
BILL SHEFFIELD, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), PRESIDENT,                     
ALASKA RAILROAD CORPORATION, ANCHORAGE, reiterated that the                    
concern with the legislation is a matter of safety,                            
particularly, signaling and flagging.  Governor Sheffield                      
explained that the Alaska Railroad Corporation is a                            
specialist in railroad construction and that most DOT&PF                       
jobs are done from standard plans, generally not charging                      
for the engineering and/or site inspection.  He reiterated                     
that the Alaska Railroad is in opposition to the                               
legislation.                                                                   
                                                                               
In response to a concern by Representative Foster, Mr.                         
Brooks explained that the Alaska Railroad occasionally                         
receives grant money from the federal government that passes                   
through DOT&PF.  The intent is that funding not be a part of                   
the proposed legislation.                                                      
                                                                               
Representative G. Davis asked if DOT&PF would have the legal                   
authority to dictate control of the project.  Governor                         
Sheffield replied that the Alaska Railroad does have control                   
of its own right-of-way where it crosses a highway belonging                   
to the Department.  If the Department is to improve the road                   
or reconstruction is done, there must be coordination of the                   
project so that it is done safely.                                             
                                                                               
Representative Martin suggested that DOT&PF could be a                         
better facilitator of cooperation.  Governor Sheffield                         
reiterated the need that the Alaska Railroad is in charge of                   
the signalization.                                                             
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley advised that his preference is to allow the                    
competitive bidding process, then whom ever meets the                          
qualifications and the lowest bid should be able to do the                     
work.  He asked if that language was included would there                      
continue to be a Union contract problem for the Alaska                         
Railroad.  Mr. Hupprich replied it could work if the                           
language of the amendment was deleted.                                         
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley asked if the Department bids out the job                       
through an open competitive process, the Railroad then bids                    
as one of the contractors, would there continue to be a                        
problem.  Mr. Hupprich replied there wouldn't and that the                     
Alaska Railroad could support that language.                                   
                                                                               
SB 285 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                        

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